These groups were led by prophets who recorded their religious and secular histories on metal plates. Technology posted on april 11, 2015 december 21, 2015 by wes trexler we already discussed the chariots which i think is a huge problem. Thus, it forms a doctrinal foundation for the lds church and mormon fundamentalist denominations of the latter day saint movement. They are capable of maintaining an air supply underwater by opening a hole. One of the best evidences was the mention of cement. Searching for book of mormon lands allen, joseph l.
Under the sea, latterday saint submarine officer kindles. Spackman see last post, the book of mormon does not support the idea of a completely sailless barge. Realized the idea of wooden submarines is reason enough. Book of abraham numbers, stars, counting and philosophy are similar, including stars populated by various orders of intelligences. Nov 26, 2019 the mormon claim of accurate and precise translation for the book of mormon cannot be harmonized with errors such as these. A political, social, and military history by brayton harris, walter j. The lord told the brother of jared to build unpowered submarines, termed barges or vessels, to cross the ocean to the promised land. Incorrect book the list contains an incorrect book please specify the title of the book. A forum for exmormons and others who have been affected by mormonism to share news, commentary, and comedy about the mormon church. Nor really for many word choices in the book of mormon my guess is that it was. Coins the term coins is never actually used in the book of mormon text. If mormons believe joseph smith was a prophet of god, they must accept his claim that the book of mormon, including the book of ether it contains, is an accurate history.
The book of mormon is a religious record of three groups of people who migrated from the old world to the american continents. This is a spot for civilians, military historians, members of the lds church and anybody else who enjoys studying the military aspects of the book of mormon and its impact on the lds church, society and the field of military history. A few photoshopped pictures of mormon submarines and missile silos deep beneath the temple in salt lake city, home of the world famous mormon pumpernickel choir. Laing has spent more than half a decade performing his duties underwater as a submarine officer. Absurdities in the book of mormon egyptian language. It is not considered to be a religious text by the community of christ. Enjoy the best, most challenging, and most popular questions from the hit discovery show cash caband theyre all no fare. Top 10 submarine books armchair general magazine we put. Feb 05, 2018 none of this will satisfy the critics. The book of mormon mainly its book of ether describes the jaredites as the descendants of jared and his brother, who lived at the time of the tower of babel. The author of the book of mormon was evidently unaware that the babylonians had already sieged jerusalem and exiled its people. It is a true story and the uss torsk ss423 is a floating museum in baltimore, md.
I hadnt heard of your book, although should have as a former ussvi associate and a current uss cod advisory group member. German u boats of the kriegsmarine and submarines of other nations. Boyne editor a compelling history of the submarine, from conception, to gestation, to birth during world war i, to the genesis of the mighty nuclear submarine. Mormon tree of life vision the original vision published by joseph smith in the book of mormon and on the misplaced golden plates was claimed to have originated by lehi which means jawbone of an ass, the weapon used by samson to slay philistines in beit shemesh house of the sun. The first submarines in the book of mormon, one might just say read the chapter heres a link.
It describes the jaredites, descendants of jared and his companions, who were led by god to the americas shortly after the confusion of tongues and the destruction of the tower of babel. Possible sources of plagairism for joseph smith exploring. The lamanites and nephites were still the family of lehi and had not split into the two factions yet, when they sailed to the promised land in a ship. Military has submarines that could reach entire countries like n. When used as a noun to refer to a type of naval vessel, the word submarine refers to a vessel that can.
Inappropriate the list including its title or description facilitates illegal activity, or contains hate speech or ad hominem attacks on a fellow goodreads member or author. Korea the ohioclass boats entered service in the 1980s as a replacement for five different classes of fleet ballistic. The writing style of the book of mormon is similar to that of the king james version of the bible. If that claim is true, then historians across the globe who credit either columbus or the vikings with the discovery of america are clearly misguided. The book of ether is one of the books that make up the book of mormon. Before he started reading, he asked me what i knew about it. In the book of mormon, alma employs a monetary system based on weight units of metal though not coins. He didnt really understand the king james, and he assumed no one else did, either.
When the book of mormon was published, there was not a single. The book of abraham translated from the papyrus, by joseph smith a translation of some ancient records, that have fallen into our hands from the catacombs of egypt. According to the book of mormon, they fled across the ocean on unique barges and established an ancient civilization in america. Nov 07, 2010 when i point out the vanishingly low probability that the jaredites could have transited to the new world as described in the book of ether, the invariable mormon response, after consideration of the facts, is that the journey was accomplished by supernatural means, in other words in violation of. A divinely guided book would not contain these kinds or numbers of grammatical mistakes, and to claim inspiration for such a book is to cast reproach upon god himself. Our editors pick the best novels and nonfiction books on underwater warfare. Interfaith thursday, may 20, 2010 interesting that the lds church stop printing mormon doctrine saying there is no market in selling it, yet the book stores cant keep them in stock, the real reason i believe is interfaithism is the goal of the n.
And it came to pass that when they had prepared all manner of food, that thereby they might subsist upon the water, and also food for their flocks and herds, and bwhatsoever beast or animal or fowl that they should carry with themand it came to pass that when they had done all these things. Heres what really reveals the true joseph smith, however. The lord caused the wind to blow the jaredites barges to the promised land. An ancient american setting for the book of mormon, p. Stones touched by jesus in 2500 bc to light the submarines built by the first native americans. If todays stealth nuclear submarines are modernday iterations of the whale, then u. Roberts made an intensive study of passages from the view of the hebrews and compared it with similar material found in the book of mormon and concluded that ethan smiths book may well have furnished structural outlines for joseph smiths book, and he further concluded that joseph smith had creative and imaginative abilities.
When i was summarizing the bom, i told him about the wooden submarines, filled with people, their farm animals, and bee hives. Realized the idea of wooden submarines is reason enough to. A fascinating exploration of the steps and stumbles during development, a rousing tribute to those who fought and died, and a powerful study of the submarines impact on america, the navy times book of submarines is an unparalleled source for understanding the great hunters of the deep. Submarines were being investigated around the time of smiths childhood. Lds church members are taught that the book of mormon bom is scripture, as well as a true record of the inhabitants of the americas from about 2200 bc to 420 ad. It is interesting therefore to note that a recent excavation in ecuador turned up 12,000 pieces of metal money, thereby confirming that the ancient americans used standard units of metal money. Lds church members are taught that the book of mormon bom is scripture, as well as a true record of the inhabitants of the americas from about 2200 bc to. Cement in the book of mormon is it concrete proof that the book of mormon is true.
Illustration by jon han on april 7, 1844, joseph smith, the founder of the mormon faith, delivered a sermon to twenty thousand of his followers in nauv. Now read this submarine related books theleansubmariner. The book of abraham was canonized in 1880 by the lds church as part of the pearl of great price. Although the book of ether never says that the jaredite barges had sails, we. Book of mormon problems lds church members are taught that the book of mormon bom is scripture, as well as a true record of the inhabitants of the americas from about 2200 bc to 420 ad. People were no longer using that old english style even in joseph smiths day. The timeline sets the beginning 2040k years ago for modern humans in the americas. Although it serves primarily as a religious text, it is to be interpreted literally as being an actual, historical record of the inhabitants of the ancient. Book of ether mormonism, the mormon church, beliefs.
But keep in mind that horses in the book of mormon are one of the biggest weaknesses in a book abounding with strengths. I used to collect evidences to support the book of mormon. The writings of abraham while he was in egypt, called the book of abraham, written by his own hand, upon papyrus. Sorenson seems to have assumed from the length of time the crossing took that the barges merely drifted and were sailless. If youve read it, did you do it with the eye of faith, or with the eye of reason and common sense. The mormon claim of accurate and precise translation for the book of mormon cannot be harmonized with errors such as these. Can the mormon transhumanist movement reconcile technological progress with religious prophecy. The book of mormon is a book of lds scripture that takes place during the same time as the bible and takes place on the american continent. How did the jaredites in the book of mormon build barges to. This is where i publish my preliminary research notes and ideas concerning warfare in the book of mormon.
Spam or selfpromotional the list is spam or selfpromotional. When i point out the vanishingly low probability that the jaredites could have transited to the new world as described in the book of ether, the invariable mormon response, after consideration of the facts, is that the journey was accomplished by supernatural means, in other words in violation of. Lds people, though, very often say that the mormon faith is unusually reasonable and sensible. But whenever hes about to embark on a submarine mission, his thoughts focus on another ancient mariner the book of mormons brother of. The first babylonian siege and exile happened under king jehoiachin. Im thinking faced with that caliber of bullshit even obama would have found himself out of his depth. Find differences in the their journey above and below the sea. Book of mormon difficulties, contradictions and explanations. The assumption of a submarine like vessel seems unlikely. He testified that the book of mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion introduction to the book of mormon. The hunt for red october by tom clancy, red storm rising by tom clancy, voyage of the devilfish by michael dimercurio, attac.
The book of mormon dates this event to the first year of the reign of zedekiah. As a test, lets consider the jaredites and their oceangoing barges, described in ether of the book of mormon. Compass, coins, and other miscellaneous some of the supposed book of mormon anachronisms are difficult to categorize, so they are included here. The book of ether tells of an ancient people the jaredites, descendants of jared and his companions who were led by god to the americas shortly after the destruction of the tower of babel. Update on horses in the book of mormon mormanity a mormon. How did the jaredites in the book of mormon build barges to cross. What does the book of mormon tell us about technology. Smiths book of ether shows that it is derivative of hunts the late war. If the book is true, as i believe it is, it should hardly be surprising that serious unresolved questions marks persist in some areas. Compass, coins, and other miscellaneous book of mormon.
This blue edition of the book of mormon includes footnotes, crossreferences, and guide to the scriptures. The book of mormon is part coming of age story that chronicles the attempts of two naive mormon missionaries as they share the mormon message in uganda, and part hilarious religious satire which parker and stone describe as an atheists love letter to religion. Yes, mormons do believe in the worldwide noachian flood as well as the tower of babel which plays in with the book of mormon narrative regarding the jaredites who according to the book of mormon arrived in large, wooden submarines which flipped over and over in bad weather. The statement is from the book of ether where the brother of jared is directed by the lord to build unpowered submarines, termed barges, to cross the ocean to the promised land.
The jaredite barges book of mormon mormon dialogue. Thats what did it for my nevermo son when his mormon sortofgirlfriend gave him a bom to read. How this latterday saint submarine officer finds gospel light deep. The book of ether is one of the books of the book of mormon.
The book of mormon records the visit of jesus christ to people in the americas following his resurrection. The worlds largest submarine book store for submarine and u boat books about submarines for submariners. The jaredites travel to the promised landbook of mormon stories. It is interesting therefore to note that a recent excavation in ecuador turned up 12,000 pieces of metal money, thereby confirming that the ancient americans used standard units of. It follows the stories of two tribes who descended from the family of lehi. The fastpaced, factdriven, backseat game show fans can now play without hailing a taxi.
Update on horses in the book of mormon mormanity a. Apr 02, 2011 the book of mormon is part coming of age story that chronicles the attempts of two naive mormon missionaries as they share the mormon message in uganda, and part hilarious religious satire which parker and stone describe as an atheists love letter to religion. The war of 1812 cannon barge windows is a game over kind of slip. Several of these books became excellent films see dvd library, march 2007 acg, vol. After jesus resurrection lds people believe he visited the peoples of.